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  Who Owns the Copyright to Crisis of Conscience?

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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  recently there was a thread where someone asked if there was a copy of crisis of conscience they could purchase.

  raymond franz it seems had limited resources yet he was able to provide crisis of conscience in printed form to what?

  thousands?

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  Beautiful!

  Thanks Watchtower-Free.
  
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  Who Owns the Copyright to Crisis of Conscience?

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently there was a thread where someone asked if there was a copy of crisis of conscience they could purchase.

  raymond franz it seems had limited resources yet he was able to provide crisis of conscience in printed form to what?

  thousands?

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  Hold Me-Thrill Me

  Recently there was a thread where someone asked if there was a copy of Crisis of Conscience they could purchase.

  Raymond Franz it seems had limited resources yet he was able to provide Crisis of Conscience in printed form to what? thousands? My late wife being one who purchased a copy.

  Who owns the copyright to Crisis of Conscience and why is its availability in printed form so limited making it too expensive for many who would like a copy?

  Frank
  
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  The two key components of religion... If removed?

  by purrpurr in

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  i'm reading a very interesting book right now " why our children will be atheist ".

  i've just started the beginning of the book but it starts off with a history of how religion developed through the ages of mankind.. one of the points it make is that religion was invented for two reasons 1) to alay fears about death and the future 2) to create a bond between other people.. i found this thought to be very interesting and i wonder if the need for those two components were removed from mankind would religion disappear too?.

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  Will all people ever give up on the possibility of seeing dead loved ones again? No, I do not think so. Hope is engineered into our DNA.
  
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  Where is Reinhard Lengtat?

  by jst2laws in

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  sorry for the posting error below.. my wife is reading crisis of conscience now.

  this is good news because i know i will have someone to talk to when im caught and dfd.

  but in her reading she is recognizing most of the names ( we were there at bethel during the 70s as a married couple) and asked what happened to reinhard lengtat?

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  I have been told that Lengtat has one foot in the Watchtower and one foot out. If this is so, what a help it would be to many if he would explain why he is both in and out. What is the good he finds in the Watchtower, which I agree is there, and what is the bad he finds.

  To remain silent is to be non-committal and lukewarm. Or is he waiting for someone to call him and invite him to return and make needed changes? I think not.
  

  Frank
  
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  Type and Anti-Type, the killing of the Faithful and Discreet Slave. Whats thier angle and how do they spin out of this one?

  by Crazyguy in

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  it would seam that the changing of the type anti-type teaching kills their claim as the faithful and discreet slave class as it is only a parable according to peter at luke 12:41. obviously i don't think they will ever come out and actually say that the f&ds is just a parable, so when one asks what will the answer be, to spin out of this obvious problem?.

  also what do you think is the reason for the change in this teaching?

  is it more to do with getting rid of doctrine that can be criticized or could it be that they are trying to make it as though they are really not in control of the congregations so as to say we aren't responsible when the prosecution comes knocking over future pedophile case?

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  Hold Me-Thrill Me

  Ray Franz said the old FDS teaching did not hold water because the anointed around the world did not truly teach or control a thing in the Watchtower. The change only caught up with the reality Ray Franz talked about.

  Perhaps someone at Bethel read his book.
  
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  Preparing for Governing Body 3.0? Making older GB step down? (New September Watchtower)

  by FusionTheism in

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  2. bible

  watchtower, study edition, september 2015, "are you reaching the stature that belongs to christ?":.

  paragraph 6: the mature christian shows humility in that he recognizes that jehovahs ways and standards are always better than his own.

  [footnote: for example, older, experienced brothers may be asked to step aside from certain responsibilities and to lend support to younger brothers as they take on those responsibilities.].

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  A member of the Governing Body acts as the FDS when the GB is meeting together. He is not the FDS on his own apart from the rest of the GB. If he chooses to retire he will continue be an anointed brother.
  
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  Preparing for Governing Body 3.0? Making older GB step down? (New September Watchtower)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower, study edition, september 2015, "are you reaching the stature that belongs to christ?":.

  paragraph 6: the mature christian shows humility in that he recognizes that jehovahs ways and standards are always better than his own.

  [footnote: for example, older, experienced brothers may be asked to step aside from certain responsibilities and to lend support to younger brothers as they take on those responsibilities.].

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  The current Governing Body is like no other. They do as they please and if they please to retire for so called medical/age reasons they will do so. In truth, it would be displaying a mature attitude to choose to retire when the job becomes too hard than to do as previous GB members and keep holding the title for the sake of the title. To retire would be seen as a sign of humility on their part and well received by the brothers and sisters.
  
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  "Make a list of people you want to meet in the New System!" (New September Watchtower)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower september 2015 study edition, "stand firm in the faith," paragraphs 16 and 17:.

  following jesus example, we must read the bible daily, study it, and meditate on what we learn.

  along with general bible study, dig into topics about which you may have questions.. you can imitate jesus by meditating on the wonderful promises jehovah has made to you.

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  I would like to meet the current Governing Body when they are resurrected to the earth.
  
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  Ideas how to answer a jw friend

  by Daniel1555 in

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  i faded completely (no kh visits or field service).. just recently a close friend from the kh wrote:.

  "dear daniel.

  it's a pity that we don't see you anymore at the kingdom hall.

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  If you want to be safe do not answer. If you don't mind some risk thank her for her concern and leave it at that. Jehovah's Witnesses are not free to be themselves. She may be sincere but she is not in control of her life or her beliefs. Not yet at least...
  
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  Are Elders experts on the Bible? Are they spirtually qualified men?

  by John Aquila in

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  2. beliefs

  how many times have elders read their bible in its entirety?

  these are the leaders that give counsel to married couples, to teenagers, to single girls and single boys on everything from marriage, education, sex, association, dress, and recreation..

  how well do they know their bible?

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  Hold Me-Thrill Me

  Most Elders know only what the Governing Body has taught. Most of them would prefer NOT to know what the Bible actually teaches because it would mess up their lives and perhaps force them to be who they actually claim to be: Christians following Jesus Christ.